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Thursday, 2010-08-26
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| renato | hi, I am evaluating OpenErp for using it as a backend of a ecommerce portal (prestashop). Since I will put prestashop and the backend application on a hosted virtual server, I would like, if possible, to use the same database, to minimize the memory footprint. Since Prestashop uses Mysql, I would like to find out whether mysql is officially supported by OpenErp too. Isaw an announcment from | 10:53 |
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| renato | SUN saying it is, but I found no mention of it at OpenErp official page. Is it officially supported? | 10:53 |
| enlightx | renato: the mysql porting of openerp is not maintained anymore, afaik | 10:55 |
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| renato | enlightx: I saw there is a version of it alegedly working with sqlalchemy andhence with MYsql/Oracle, etc (but no installer) but I found no mention on the status of it: testing? abandoned brench? | 11:00 |
| renato | I've got nothing against postgres. It is just that in the case of a hosted system, the memory footprint still matters and this means you will have to run a database just for OpenErp | 11:02 |
| enlightx | renato: sqlalchemy port is abandoned too :-) | 11:03 |
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| valtere | K | 11:13 |
| valtere | ? | 11:13 |
| valtere | on the debian lenny 5.05 | 11:13 |
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| Bolly | hey | 11:16 |
| Bolly | we are just trialing openerp and are wondering if there is a returns/rma module? | 11:16 |
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| Red15 | bolly the way you generally do it is click on the return packing on a a delivered packing list | 11:19 |
| Red15 | then you will the options about invoicing etc | 11:19 |
| Bolly | thanks | 11:20 |
| Bolly | just trying now | 11:20 |
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| renato | hi, still an openerp novice, what happened to the 5.2 version of openerp? has it been "rebranded" as 6.0? | 12:14 |
| enlightx | renato: exactly | 12:14 |
| renato | and it is still "alpha" I believe (I found referencies to it since mid last year) | 12:16 |
| enlightx | renato: release schedule for 6 will soon appear on openerp.com | 12:18 |
| enlightx | an official presentation is already scheduled for september 7 | 12:18 |
| renato | so I guess there is also a beta/RTM version circulating somewhere | 12:19 |
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| enlightx | renato: trunk version of openerp IS the 6.0 | 12:22 |
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| renato | is anyone here familiar with this 6.0 version? has openerp API changed much? (wondering about using pentaho for interfacing it with our ecommerce platform) and with a crm (unless the new crm features of openerp have improved as people familiar with the topic claim they have) we wouldlike to be able to go live in three months so I am trying to evaluate risks and approaches | 12:24 |
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| enlightx | renato: apis are almost the same. they just improved usability and did some bugfixing | 12:26 |
| renato | on the openerp official page, there seem to be just a frontend 6.0 version, does it mean the backend server is the same? | 12:27 |
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| valtere | hello | 12:58 |
| valtere | hi | 12:58 |
| valtere | please give me a url | 12:58 |
| valtere | in my debian lenny 5 server | 12:58 |
| valtere | for install openerp | 12:59 |
| valtere | please | 12:59 |
| valtere | i wait | 12:59 |
| makelin | yes | 13:00 |
| makelin | you can use all in one pack for linux | 13:00 |
| valtere | it is possible | 13:01 |
| jessejames | valtere, I've given you the http://doc.openerp.com/install url before... didn't you write it down? | 13:01 |
| valtere | not debian | 13:02 |
| valtere | the doc specified ubuntu | 13:02 |
| jessejames | valtere, there are manual install instructions that work for any package. Also, Ubuntu just uses the debian package | 13:03 |
| valtere | ok | 13:04 |
| valtere | i try | 13:04 |
| makelin | to installation process for debian is same as ubuntu | 13:05 |
| jessejames | valtere, also the manual instructions should work on any Linux. | 13:06 |
| valtere | ok | 13:07 |
| valtere | thanks | 13:07 |
| jessejames | valtere, I recommend that you use version 5.0.12 and follow the manual install instructions as 5.0.6 has a lot of bugs that have been fixed | 13:12 |
| tej | from where i can get school system | 13:12 |
| makelin | ya, i need to school system | 13:12 |
| renato | jessejames: there are just cleint downloads for version 6, does version 6 use the same server (5.12)? | 13:26 |
| jessejames | renato, they are similar but I don't think they are the same. If you use a version 5 client against a v6 server it gives you a warning. I've not tried using a v6 client against a v5 server | 13:31 |
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| renato | jessejames: thak you, in such a case I find it strange they do not offer a server download too | 13:45 |
| Red15 | renato, you're right that is weird ! | 13:51 |
| Red15 | hadn't noticed they put up the v6 client download link | 13:51 |
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| caneca | Hello, Why do I get an error if i try to search by None? self.search(db_cursor, uid, [('being_edited_by','is',None)]) | 15:09 |
| caneca | ValueError: Bad domain expression: [('active', '=', 1), ('being_edited_by', 'is', None)] | 15:09 |
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| enlightx | caneca: are you sure "is" is a supported operator? never seen before | 15:10 |
| enlightx | then, i don't think you can use None as a value there | 15:11 |
| jessejames | caneca, check out the docs: http://doc.openerp.com/developer/2_5_Objects_Fields_Methods/methods.html#osv.osv.osv.search | 15:11 |
| jessejames | caneca, valid expressions are: =, !=, >, >=, <, <=, like, ilike, in, not in, child_of, parent_left, parent_right | 15:12 |
| caneca | enlightx, jessejames i just found a work-around to search for null fields.... | 15:12 |
| caneca | self.search(db_cursor, uid, [('being_edited_by','in',[])]) | 15:12 |
| Red15 | and why would ('x','=',None) not work then ? | 15:13 |
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| caneca | it gives a error of cannot marshal None unless allow_none is enabled | 15:13 |
| Red15 | Ah yes, you're doing this over xmlrpc then ? | 15:14 |
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| Red15 | you could do as they say, enable allow_none :) | 15:15 |
| caneca | i tryed to enable i didnt found how.. heheheh... but it gives different error in the view definition, in the code, and in the xml... | 15:15 |
| caneca | this = none that i need is in the view definition.. | 15:16 |
| caneca | it was giving the error TypeError: %d format: a number is required, not unicode | 15:16 |
| caneca | with (x, '=', None) | 15:17 |
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| Red15 | dont forget x should be in quotes as well | 15:17 |
| Red15 | because it is the field name (or any other locally defined variable such as uid etc) | 15:17 |
| jessejames | caneca, I'm surprised that your workaround works - sounds like a bug to me! | 15:17 |
| caneca | Red15, yes yes... the field is in quotes =D kust a mistyping | 15:18 |
| caneca | but still not working what i want =( | 15:18 |
| Thecapt2000 | is there an howto on getting the alpha/beta 6.0 ? | 15:18 |
| Thecapt2000 | server | 15:18 |
| Red15 | Thecapt2000, bzr branch lp:openerp-server | 15:19 |
| jessejames | Red15, should that be openobject-server? | 15:19 |
| Red15 | http://doc.openerp.com/contribute/04_using_bazaar.html#how-to-get-the-latest-trunk-source-code | 15:19 |
| Thecapt2000 | Red15 I guess the same way I will be able to get the pugins too | 15:20 |
| Red15 | Thecapt2000, jessejames is right, its openobject-server | 15:20 |
| jessejames | Thecapt2000, for addons: openobject-addons | 15:20 |
| Thecapt2000 | so for openerp "bzr branch lp:openerp-server" | 15:21 |
| Thecapt2000 | sorry openpobject_server | 15:22 |
| Thecapt2000 | openobject-server | 15:22 |
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| jessejames | Thecapt2000, there is also a script that gets everything (with some instructions). bzr branch lp:openerp | 15:23 |
| Red15 | Thecapt2000, look at this http://doc.openerp.com/contribute/04_using_bazaar.html#how-to-get-the-latest-trunk-source-code | 15:23 |
| Red15 | but you might have to replace clone with branch and build lp: urls in the way we've shown you | 15:23 |
| Thecapt2000 | I tried openerp about one year ago and at the time, you could download the plugins from the program itself, I guess if I get the plugins from bazaar, I will have just to copy the ones I am interested in in a "plugin" directory, am I correct? | 15:24 |
| Red15 | Thecapt2000, it's better yes, they disabled the remote repository downloads | 15:24 |
| jessejames | Thecapt2000, by plugins do you mean modules? They are in the -addons project | 15:24 |
| Red15 | as it confused too many people and introduced too many unfinished modules | 15:24 |
| Thecapt2000 | yes, this is what I meant | 15:24 |
| Thecapt2000 | do the instructions in the installation manuals apply to the 6.0 version as well? | 15:25 |
| Thecapt2000 | (minus the python 2.6 issue I hope) | 15:25 |
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| jessejames | Thecapt2000, if you run: bzr branch lp:openerp you get a script called bzr_setup.py. Edit the version in there to say 6.0 (or trunk) and run the script. That will get you everyhting that you need | 15:26 |
| Thecapt2000 | does that scrip handle different linux distributions? | 15:28 |
| jessejames | Thecapt2000, all it does is the bzr branch commands. I think you need to install your prerequisites yourself | 15:30 |
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| Thecapt2000 | jessejames that is what I was asking, meaning whether the installation instruction were still current or whether there is somethin else/different I should need to do | 15:31 |
| Thecapt2000 | *something | 15:32 |
| jessejames | Thecapt2000, you'll need to install the pre-reqs as documented in the main installation instructions | 15:33 |
| Thecapt2000 | ok, tx | 15:33 |
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| renato__ | hi, I am downloading 6.0 from bazaar, I have modified the default version to 'trunk' in bzr_set.py and I get: No handlers could be found for logger "bzr" | 16:01 |
| renato__ | I launched it by doing python bzr_set.py | 16:02 |
| jessejames | renato__, you definitely have bzr installed? | 16:02 |
| renato__ | yes, I do, I have | 16:03 |
| renato__ | bzr -h | 16:03 |
| renato__ | Bazaar 2.0.5 -- a free distributed version-control tool | 16:03 |
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| jessejames | renato__, check this out: https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/19988 | 16:04 |
| jessejames | renato__, that's for a 'push' command, but there may be something like that for the pull | 16:05 |
| renato__ | I am no expert in bazaar, I have installed it a couple of days ago for getting the mysql version of openerp before learning it is not mantained anymore | 16:05 |
| renato__ | in that link they mention "bzr break-lock URL" do I need to chane URL with something or do I type it literally? | 16:06 |
| jessejames | renato__, actually, I think this is the problem: permissions on the log file: http://procrastiblog.com/2010/01/03/no-handlers-could-be-found-for-logger-bzr/ | 16:06 |
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| caneca | After many tries i still didnt manage to do a search for Null/None values in de view... | 16:10 |
| caneca | <group col="6" colspan="4" attrs="{'invisible':[('being_edited_by','!=',None)]}"> TypeError: %d format: a number is required, not unicode | 16:10 |
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| caneca | being_edited_by is a many2one field... and is set null when there is no one editing a product | 16:11 |
| jessejames | caneca, did you say that you tried ('being_edited_by','!=','None') | 16:12 |
| caneca | Red15, jessejames, enlightx Some one got any idea? | 16:12 |
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| caneca | i tried... 'in', [] and '=', None | 16:13 |
| caneca | both doesnt work in the view | 16:13 |
| Red15 | but tried 'None' vs None ? | 16:14 |
| jessejames | caneca, did you try None in quotes i.e. 'None' | 16:14 |
| Red15 | I doubt it will work though | 16:14 |
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| caneca | i will try... but i doubt as well.. because it is expecting a number... | 16:15 |
| Red15 | the problem seems to be that 'being_edited_by' is not correctly converted to an ID ... it seems it's a unicode text actually | 16:15 |
| caneca | 'None' doesnt work as well | 16:16 |
| Red15 | being_edited_by is a regular many2one , nothing special ? | 16:16 |
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| caneca | i tried ('being_edited_by','=',3) and it works for id = 3 | 16:16 |
| caneca | nothing special | 16:16 |
| caneca | a regular many2one | 16:17 |
| Red15 | and why not use the 'in', [] trick then ? | 16:17 |
| caneca | i tryed... but dont work... and no error is raised | 16:17 |
| caneca | just dont show the fields i want | 16:17 |
| Red15 | not even on the client ? | 16:17 |
| Red15 | are you running the client in a console so you can see any output it gives ? | 16:17 |
| caneca | yes.. i am running with debug_rpc_answer | 16:17 |
| Red15 | you have to keep in mind view parsing is done client side | 16:17 |
| caneca | if i put None gives a error of number required.. if i put "in []" it doesnt give any error in the console.. but still not showing my fields.. heheh | 16:19 |
| renato__ | what I get is: | 16:20 |
| renato__ | ./bzr_set.py -v trunk | 16:20 |
| renato__ | new branch of lp:~openerp-commiter/openobject-addons/trunk-extra-addons into ./addons-extra | 16:20 |
| renato__ | No handlers could be found for logger "bzr" | 16:20 |
| jessejames | caneca, clucthing at straws, but have you tried 'null' | 16:20 |
| renato__ | and it does not download anything | 16:20 |
| renato__ | there is no log file created | 16:20 |
| caneca | Null is not defined in python... but lets give it a try | 16:21 |
| jessejames | renato__, have you checked the directory permissions. What user are you running as and which folder are you in? | 16:22 |
| renato__ | when I downloaded the script it was placed into ~/openerp | 16:22 |
| renato__ | drwxr-xr-x 2 renato users 4096 2010-08-26 16:07 openerp | 16:22 |
| renato__ | so everything seems to be absolutely fine | 16:23 |
| jessejames | renato__, what are the permissions on ~/bzr.log | 16:24 |
| renato__ | there is no such file | 16:24 |
| jessejames | renato__, sorry ~/.bzr.log | 16:24 |
| renato__ | there was one from previous attempt but I deleted it | 16:24 |
| renato__ | there is no ~/.bzr.log file, there was one from 20 minutes ago, with the right persomission, but I have deleted it | 16:25 |
| renato__ | I am running Python 2.6.5 | 16:26 |
| jessejames | renato__, try it manually: bzr branch lp:openobject-server server | 16:27 |
| renato__ | it seems to work | 16:27 |
| renato__ | Y | 16:27 |
| renato__ | ou have not informed bzr of your Launchpad ID, and you must do this to | 16:27 |
| renato__ | write to Launchpad or access private data. See "bzr help launchpad-login". | 16:27 |
| caneca | jessejames, Null doesnt work | 16:28 |
| renato__ | then the downlod progress | 16:28 |
| renato__ | jessejames using that command what version am I downloading? | 16:29 |
| jessejames | renato__, that's the trunk... that should be what the bzr_setup.py does | 16:30 |
| jessejames | renato__, to do it manually you'll need... | 16:30 |
| renato__ | is the addons command going to belike: bzr branch lp:openobject-addons addons ? | 16:30 |
| jessejames | bzr branch lp:openobject-addons addons | 16:30 |
| renato__ | ok | 16:31 |
| renato__ | and similarly for the client | 16:31 |
| jessejames | bzr branch lp:openobject-client client | 16:31 |
| renato__ | yep, I had gotten the drill | 16:31 |
| jessejames | bzr branch lp:openobject-client-web web (guessing this one!) | 16:31 |
| jessejames | renato__, to keep them up-to-date you go into each folder and do bzr pull (but you probably knew that) | 16:32 |
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| renato__ | no I didn't, as I said I am totally new to bazaar. I hope I do not have to do that, I am going to play around with this alpha and play with pentaho to try to syncronize openerp with a ecommerce pachacke we have. I hope I won't have to touch openerp again till the 6.0 will become production (hopefully that is going to be sooner rather than later) | 16:35 |
| jessejames | renato__, I think they're looking to release in it September | 16:36 |
| renato__ | just out of curiosity why was the sqlalchemy ersion abandoned? | 16:36 |
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| renato__ | which meeans the version I am downloading now should be stable enough, at least at database / architectural level | 16:37 |
| jessejames | renato__, I have less than a month's experience with openerp, I've no idea about sqlalchemy. Version 6.0 is looking pretty good | 16:38 |
| jessejames | Is there an openerp partner that could ping them to get this bug fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openobject-addons/+bug/620481 | 16:39 |
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| renato__ | is 6.0 built using sqlalchemy? I did not know that, I thought it was an "experiment" CARRIED OUT ON THE 5.0 BRANCH AND ABANDONED | 16:41 |
| renato__ | oops | 16:41 |
| renato__ | sorry for the capitals | 16:41 |
| renato__ | sorry, I red your statement wrong | 16:41 |
| renato__ | sqlalchemy version was supposed to give database indipendence | 16:41 |
| jessejames | renato__, I think it is pretty tied to postgres at present. It's a very good database, so I don't think they will be in a hurry to change that | 16:42 |
| renato__ | unfortunately postgres is not widely used and, in situation like mine, where I would like to ut ecommer frontend and backend on a virtual server, ahving to support two database engines will increase the memory footprint and hence the server costs | 16:43 |
| jessejames | renato__, can the other product use postgres? | 16:43 |
| renato__ | no, I have looked at several ecommerce portals, they all use mysql | 16:44 |
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| enlightx | renato__: mysql isn't a good choice for complex applications like ERPs | 16:46 |
| enlightx | then you don't need to read/write data on the db, because you can use webservices. so you don't care about the database behind the software | 16:47 |
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| jessejames | renato__, Satchmo is a Django-based ecommerce and I thik that can use postgresql http://www.satchmoproject.com | 16:52 |
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| enlightx | jessejames: yes it does, the same for LFS another django based ecommerce | 16:56 |
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| jessejames | enlightx, thanks for the tip on LFS. I know someone looking for a good python-based store... and they like django | 17:05 |
| enlightx | jessejames: LFS is young (but already used on production by some people), but very promising | 17:06 |
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| renato__ | what is the branch name, in 6.0 for the web client? bzr branch lp:openobject-webclient webclient? | 17:23 |
| renato__ | np, I found it already | 17:25 |
| jessejames | renato__, think its openobject-client-web | 17:25 |
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| renato__ | ok, off I go, install postgres and install openerp 6.0 | 17:28 |
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| jessejames | renato__, don't forget to install the pre-requisite packages (check the installation docs) | 17:37 |
| renato__ | yes, I blieve I've got them already (minus postgres) as I have just finished installing version 5.0 (with mysql) | 17:38 |
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| renato__ | I am testing the openerp instance and it is complaining it is missing some python modules: like yaml is this part of the pre-requisites (I did not find a mention of it) or should it come from the openerp distribution? | 18:05 |
| renato__ | no problems I already found out two additional payton modules to install | 18:08 |
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| jessejames | renato__, that's right - is that yaml and lxml? Did you find that documented somewhere? | 18:13 |
| renato__ | no, every time I get a signal something is missing I look whether there is a package for it | 18:14 |
| renato__ | I already got the server up and running in test | 18:14 |
| renato__ | meaning without installaition | 18:14 |
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